And we are currently trying to buy military aircraft when as a consequence of a Conservative government we abandoned our own industry. We should be selling planes not buying them
Wonderful analogy. And timely. It will be the strategy to get us through the inevitable recession we will now have (thanks to Trump)
I have confidence in Carney to accomplish the maximum possible good for Canada during a rough time. It's time to take back Canada with big plans and programs.
What a great point to be making. Timely also in light of the recent letter signed by several Canadian CEO’s and bankers in favor of PP and his promised deregulations. Hard to imagine how there are people who can’t see what’s been happening in the US as one huge cautionary tale. Where unbridled capitalism leads. It does need to be said though that government corruption certainly exists as does inefficiency. A solution would be to create reforms that would attract the ‘best and the brightest’ to participate in government. Carney could be a harbinger of that. I think Canada is at its best when functioning as a ‘we’ rather than divided over self interest.
The problem with meritocracies is that the people who really should be leading are usually too smart to expose themselves to the horrors of politics. Politics should be viewed as a period of service, not a career. If we could drag a worthy academic or a business leader away from their career for a defined period, to apply their prodigious skill and experience to a challenge, with the promise they could return to their career when milestones are achieved, we might attract more qualified people to public service.
Cynically, I contend that one of the first questions we should ask a candidate is “do you have political aspirations?” If the answer is “yes” they should be disqualified.
Same in the UK, by and large. It's always the case that in the good times the private owners line their pockets, but whenever there's some problem of downturn, the same private owner come looking for a publicly funded bailout. Socialism for the rich!
Water, energy and transport are the big ones here. There have been some successes, but in general the 30 year old theory that "private=good, public=bad" has been tested to destruction.
I'm also a dual national of France, and spend a lot of time in the country. France has it's own set of issues, but there is an implicit belief here that the govt should be a force for good and is the collective effort of the people. Anger is directed against politicians and policy, not govt institutions themselves. I've never heard a French citizen simply state that the govt is the problem, tho they will happily tell you which policy or politician is!
Even tho I abhor her policy proposals (so far as there are any) of Le Pen, I don't believe she is a Trump style autocrat with no regard for the constitution of the Fifth Republic. Maybe time will tell
Some facts need to be checked. McGuinty was the Liberal leader for the 407 fiasco and I think the liberals were in power for Petro Canada. In spite of this I still support Carney as prime minister.
Those were complex situations that took years to come to fruition. It’s like saying Biden was responsible for the Afghanistan exit. He didn’t sit down and negotiate with terrorists, he didn’t set the date, but he was in the seat when the music stopped. So he is both credited with getting America out of Afghanistan and blamed for how it was done, completely ignoring the fact that Trump, by opening the door and negotiating with terrorists doomed 41,000,000 people to be captive to 500,000 people, turning back the clock on human rights to the dark ages, and did it with no understanding of what he was doing or a moment’s reflection or regret. Democrats took the hit.
The 407 took 1.5 Billion dollars and it took decades of appropriation, starting in the 50s to develop it. It was formally launched in 1987 under Liberal leader David Peterson’ government.
Construction began under Bob Rae’s NDP government in 1993.
The first segment was opened in 1997 under Mike Harris’s Progressive Conservative government.
In 1999 Harris privatized it and sold a 99 year lease to a private consortium. He sold it for 3.1 Billion, recouping the cost to build and develop the land, and making a ~1+ Billion dollar profit which he promptly put in the general fund. Today the 407 makes over a billion dollars of profit a year for its owners… a tidy profit to be sure, and money that could put $1 Billion ins the general fund every single year to the benefit of Ontarians.
Petro Canada took $1.5 Billion to tie together in 1975 under Trudeau senior and the decision to divest it came under Mulroney in 1989.
The final sale of Petro Canada, the full privatization came under Paul Martin, who was leader of the Liberal Party in 2004.
In all of these cases, regardless of leadership, it’s the people of Canada who were ripped off.
Liberal ideology allows for citizens to benefit from the resources of the country. Conservative ideology consistently insists that private interests guide the use and reap the reward of national resources.
The Conservative ideal should be that public entities are run in an efficient manner to the maximum benefit of the economy, but that isn’t in the playbook. The policy is simply a rehash of trickledown theory and relies on the benevolence and foresight of profit-motivated and (the conservative ideal) completely unregulated corporations to ensure that everything is done in a fair and sustainable way that benefits citizens. (How’s that working out?)
And we are currently trying to buy military aircraft when as a consequence of a Conservative government we abandoned our own industry. We should be selling planes not buying them
Wonderful analogy. And timely. It will be the strategy to get us through the inevitable recession we will now have (thanks to Trump)
I have confidence in Carney to accomplish the maximum possible good for Canada during a rough time. It's time to take back Canada with big plans and programs.
What a great point to be making. Timely also in light of the recent letter signed by several Canadian CEO’s and bankers in favor of PP and his promised deregulations. Hard to imagine how there are people who can’t see what’s been happening in the US as one huge cautionary tale. Where unbridled capitalism leads. It does need to be said though that government corruption certainly exists as does inefficiency. A solution would be to create reforms that would attract the ‘best and the brightest’ to participate in government. Carney could be a harbinger of that. I think Canada is at its best when functioning as a ‘we’ rather than divided over self interest.
The problem with meritocracies is that the people who really should be leading are usually too smart to expose themselves to the horrors of politics. Politics should be viewed as a period of service, not a career. If we could drag a worthy academic or a business leader away from their career for a defined period, to apply their prodigious skill and experience to a challenge, with the promise they could return to their career when milestones are achieved, we might attract more qualified people to public service.
Cynically, I contend that one of the first questions we should ask a candidate is “do you have political aspirations?” If the answer is “yes” they should be disqualified.
So clear to me, why it is not for others is beyond me.
Love Canada 🇨🇦
Same in the UK, by and large. It's always the case that in the good times the private owners line their pockets, but whenever there's some problem of downturn, the same private owner come looking for a publicly funded bailout. Socialism for the rich!
Water, energy and transport are the big ones here. There have been some successes, but in general the 30 year old theory that "private=good, public=bad" has been tested to destruction.
I'm also a dual national of France, and spend a lot of time in the country. France has it's own set of issues, but there is an implicit belief here that the govt should be a force for good and is the collective effort of the people. Anger is directed against politicians and policy, not govt institutions themselves. I've never heard a French citizen simply state that the govt is the problem, tho they will happily tell you which policy or politician is!
Even tho I abhor her policy proposals (so far as there are any) of Le Pen, I don't believe she is a Trump style autocrat with no regard for the constitution of the Fifth Republic. Maybe time will tell
Some facts need to be checked. McGuinty was the Liberal leader for the 407 fiasco and I think the liberals were in power for Petro Canada. In spite of this I still support Carney as prime minister.
Those were complex situations that took years to come to fruition. It’s like saying Biden was responsible for the Afghanistan exit. He didn’t sit down and negotiate with terrorists, he didn’t set the date, but he was in the seat when the music stopped. So he is both credited with getting America out of Afghanistan and blamed for how it was done, completely ignoring the fact that Trump, by opening the door and negotiating with terrorists doomed 41,000,000 people to be captive to 500,000 people, turning back the clock on human rights to the dark ages, and did it with no understanding of what he was doing or a moment’s reflection or regret. Democrats took the hit.
The 407 took 1.5 Billion dollars and it took decades of appropriation, starting in the 50s to develop it. It was formally launched in 1987 under Liberal leader David Peterson’ government.
Construction began under Bob Rae’s NDP government in 1993.
The first segment was opened in 1997 under Mike Harris’s Progressive Conservative government.
In 1999 Harris privatized it and sold a 99 year lease to a private consortium. He sold it for 3.1 Billion, recouping the cost to build and develop the land, and making a ~1+ Billion dollar profit which he promptly put in the general fund. Today the 407 makes over a billion dollars of profit a year for its owners… a tidy profit to be sure, and money that could put $1 Billion ins the general fund every single year to the benefit of Ontarians.
Petro Canada took $1.5 Billion to tie together in 1975 under Trudeau senior and the decision to divest it came under Mulroney in 1989.
The final sale of Petro Canada, the full privatization came under Paul Martin, who was leader of the Liberal Party in 2004.
In all of these cases, regardless of leadership, it’s the people of Canada who were ripped off.
Liberal ideology allows for citizens to benefit from the resources of the country. Conservative ideology consistently insists that private interests guide the use and reap the reward of national resources.
The Conservative ideal should be that public entities are run in an efficient manner to the maximum benefit of the economy, but that isn’t in the playbook. The policy is simply a rehash of trickledown theory and relies on the benevolence and foresight of profit-motivated and (the conservative ideal) completely unregulated corporations to ensure that everything is done in a fair and sustainable way that benefits citizens. (How’s that working out?)
Thanks for the info.
No problem! Politics speaks in the sound bites that benefit them the most, the truth rarely figures into it.
Well said. Carney is Canada’s hope! 🇨🇦❤️🇨🇦✊🏼